Talk:Nintendo DS

aligning
ah fuck, I don't know how to make these all look aligned. God damnit. If anyone knows how to make all the categories lined up, do it. For now I just put the code "|<'font color=#FFFFFF>Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time into every single one, lol. It's like a really inaccurate space filler - so yeah. If anyone else can figure this out, do it. I'm a wikinoob. Zachncheeze 07:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

addition
Should add Super Robot Taisen OG Saga: Endless Frontier

Atlus game where you play a Space cowboy surrounded by tits. Other then the gratuitous fan service, there is a pretty good battle system--76.4.83.246 16:33, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

This is a wiki. If there's something you think should be added, add it. I will this time, but c'mon. SelfTitledAlbum 16:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

tried. couldn't figure it out. sorry.--76.4.83.246 02:58, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Advance Wars: Days of Ruin == "Most balanced?" Lolno, how bout those moving and attacking battleships, easy-mode dusters, and lol-I-capture-you motorcycles?

68.20.0.65 19:50, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

homebrew
I know it, you know it, we all now it, /v/ is pirates. Damn near every DS enthusiast on /v/ owns a flashcart, regardless if they want to use it for piracy or legitimate reasons.

Since a lot of people looking here would own a flashcart of some sort I thought a recommended homebrew list would be a good idea, it's amazing what homebrew can do for a system.

Do you think a homebrew list belongs below the games list? I'm going to add what I think are some worthwhile homebrew to the list anyway.--RupeeClock 19:19, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

You're absoloutely right. -- User:Anonymou

I don't know how you use this newfangled wiki thing, but how's about adding VNDS to the homebrew list? /v/ seems to enjoy a VN discussion more than /jp/ anyways from what I've seen. Who knows? Maybe if they get more attention they'll convert more VNs faster or something. I don't know how that works. --True Neutral 20:47, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Alphabetical order?
This page, as well as many others, sorely need to be put into alphabetical order.

Come on people, we're not five years old... I hope. MFGreth1 01:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

The listing is based off the original recommendation image used on /v/, and it doesn't translate from groups to tables very well. Yeah it needs to be sorted out, but at least you can click those boxes at the top of each column to sort all the rows. --RupeeClock 01:40, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Unofficial DSiware to consider List
Intersect/Digidrive: Not quite sure how to explain this. It involves directing traffic, linking chains, and utilizing fuel. Perhaps one of our European contributors can give me a hand here?

Asphalt 4- Elite Racing: A pretty good racing game with a bit of depth. Centers around drifting, nitro-boosting, slamming into rivals, and collecting cash for customization. You can drive a car or speed along on a motorbike. There's actually quite a bit of stuff to be bought, and there's multiple gameplay modes, so it's a pretty good deal.

Thorium Wars- A rather expansive title that involves tank and space fighter shooting action. A solid title, but gets a bit tough at times.

Pinball Pulse: The Ancients Beckon- If you were around for the pinball games of the 80's, prepare for a nostalgia trip. This is one of the most authentic pinball experiences around, with simulated LED displayss and goofy voiceovers. This features only a single table, but there are a number of challenges to take on. For only 5 bucks, you could do far worse. Made by the team that did Metroid Prime: Pinball. Now that's ballin'.

Hard-Hat Domo: Resembles a modern Game and Watch kind of game. Domo is constructing a skyscraper and must match different colored ladders to upper floors in order to climb higher. If a floor color doesn't match his ladder color, he can use a cans of paint on current and past floors to change colors up. Starts easy, but gets a satisfying difficulty spike after beating the first difficulty, especially since the construction blocks start quicker (if they catch up to him, Domo loses a life). Simple, but it has nice replay value, only takes up a very minor amount of memory, and is inexpensive.

Pro-Putt Domo: A simple golf game that controls relatively well and has some decent physics as well. Has a bit less replay value than Hard-Hat Domo, simply because there isn't much else to do after you get the lowest scores you can for each hole. Although, that in itself is a bit tough to accomplish. Once again, takes up minor memory and is inexpensive.

(Update: Apparently, each of the Domo games come from a GBA game that has all of the ones offered and more. While DSi users can't technically play the GBA game, I recommend that DSLite and DSPhat owners consider getting it instead. (Update: It's "Domo-Kun no Fushigi Terebi".))

Also, Coming Soon (later this year, early next year):

Mr. Driller DSi (Likely)- Miniature Mr. Driller. Tunnel through blocks and score combos. Each character has different properties and traits.

Phantasy Star Zero Mini (Likely)- IIRC, a demo or limited single player mode. (Can someone verify? I've heard both.)

Reflection- A curious platformer that involves traversing both screens simultaneously.

Shantae: Risky's Revenge- Shantae from GBC makes her return. The first of 3 episodic installments.

(Thanks to all who have made suggestions on hits and misses.) --Dejiko 03:26, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to whoever added the Official DSiware list. I added a few things to it and made some minor edits here and there. --Dejiko 15:18, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

scribblenauts is balls.
The game was added quickly.

The truth of the game, is its really fun and impressive for an hour. Within this first hour of fun, is when it was added. After that time, the game is one of the most frustrating experiences in all of gaming. MOST items do nothing, controls are among the worst of all time, and overall the game is not recommend-worthy. --174.112.118.226 03:00, September 28, 2009

I agree personally for the same reason Drawn to Life isn't in the list, it has a gimmick but the core game is pretty mediocre and badly executed. (So badly that 99% of the action levels can be beaten using handcuffs and a basket) A lot of other users might disagree though, we should put this to a vote. --RupeeClock 05:46, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

I, for one, would leave it on the list, so that's one vote for yea vs two nays. - MFGreth1 14:08, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

I get a billion hijillion kazooillion votes and I say it stays. Because you can grind a game doesn't mean that it's a bad game. You can solve the levels with a small selection of objects or a wide selection of objects, whatever you wish. It's not quite as amazing as it was hyped up to be, but there has never been anything in the history of ever that's lived up to its hype. I can update the description to reflect the mixed feelings. Kotep 06:56, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

I just came here to say that Scribblenauts is balls. Really. It gets old in less than one hour.--189.39.33.244 12:11, November 26, 2009 (UTC) edit: just came by to say who that was (me)--Sataaa 11:35, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

What's the consensus on RIZ-ZOAWD/The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road
I heard the gameplay was a bit on the basic side, but rather inventive, and that the bosses were the only real challenge. In addition to that, I heard it had a surprisingly impressive story. And while this is a bit personal, I think the style is quite well done. I'm curious on anyone else's opinion though. --Dejiko 03:55, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

I haven't got much chance to play it, but from what I've heard it's pretty mediocre. From what I've heard it's got amazing graphics but pretty mediocre gameplay and frustrating controls. It is by the team who does Wild ARMS though (Media.Vision). I'd hold off until I get more of a chance to play it and if I feel it's worthy of spreading via the wiki I'll add it. SirTeffy 14:42, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. I've heard mixed things myself. If by controls you mean the trackball right? That's where a good chunk of mixed opinions come in. I heard the gameplay was a bit different to say the least, what with the ratio system and all. Knowing it's by the Wild Arms team is quite intriguing though. --Dejiko 15:59, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sands of Destruction
So, should it be added to the list? What do you guys think of it? My impression so far is that it's pretty good if what you're looking for is a traditional JRPG. It has nice music as well. But fuck the main character's voice, but that's not entirely a flaw I suppose.

Upcoming Releases: What should be included in the real list?
Alice in Wonderland DS: 

Well it's sorta like Yoshis Island, nice artstyle, doesn't take itself too seriously. Starts slooooow though. If Yoshis Island DS makes the list than this one should also be considered. 3yearold 12:57, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Picross 3D:

As addicting as it gets, and I'm usually not into puzzle games. I say it's worth including. 3yearold 12:57, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sonic Classic Collection:

I personally wouldn't recommend Sonic Classic Collection, it's literally just jEnesisDS but with nerfed Sonic roms that removed all of the cheats, and doesn't let you pause with the pause button because that would enable level select/debug mode in Sonic 3&K.RupeeClock 19:58, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

/v/'s recommended DS flashcarts?
There's been a lot of discussion around flashcarts on /v/ recently, especially since Heart Gold/Soul Silver was dumped.

We should construct a list of recommended (and not recommended) Flashcarts.

There's Acekard, Cyclo DS, DSTT, R4, M3i Zero, Supercard DSOne, and many more.

Personally, I would recommend the Acekard and Cyclo DS, and write up about how the R4 is outdated, and the official team is gone.RupeeClock 20:03, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Nice idea, but really what can you write? It boils down to: get a Cyclo or AceCard if you want to save a little money / don't care for the feature overload. What may be worth discussing is using slot-2 devices to play GBA games and so on, but information on that matter is easily aquired via google or the Cyclo forum. If you wan't to write an article, by all means do so and I'll try and help with it, but I really think that would be like loves labours lost. Especially since the talk about it will die down pretty soon. Pokemon doesn't last forever. Peace. 3yearold 20:39, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oh true enough, certainly, but even with the passing of pokémon you will still find a lot of people using an R4 that suddenly isn't meeting their expectations, everytime they want to play /v/'s current popular DS title. I may start up a template of flashcarts to stat pros and cons of, since some flashcarts have their own pecularities, and I don't own all the models. RupeeClock 20:42, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Here's a template for the flashcart guide. Icons courtesy of this thread on GBAtemp: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=213692

The question is, does this get added to this article, or made as a separate article?

I personally would like to have everything in one place: Recommended games, upcomig games, DSi ware, Flashcarts, homebrew... But that would make the article hella long, and seeing how upcoming games now have they're own list, maybe we should make a DS homebrew page. That page would be the perfect place for Flashcarts, Slot-2 devices (if anyone can be bothered) and homebrew games and applications. You ARE pretty damn fast, by the way. 3yearold 22:20, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well I'm mostly hoping to get something started here, I mostly only contribute when I feel like it.

A separate page for homebrew and flashcart devices is a good idea, they're each small enough to make a large enough article together.

You could probably add a small guide about microSD memory too.

That's a good idea. I was kinda confused by that whole memory thing when I started using flashcarts. It's also great to see someone helping out with anything DS related here, so Brofist. 3yearold 22:40, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

You know what? http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/DS_Homebrew

I'll work on it in the next days. But for now I just added your list and put up some general markers. 3yearold 23:33, March 21, 2010 (UTC)